Ian, enharmonic ([info]scarred2112) wrote,
@ 2005-09-21 15:53:00
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Current mood: accomplished
Current music:Half Zaftig -- Freedom

The Building and Release of Pressure
I'll let you in on a 'lil secret.

...I went crazy the past year. Not in a "smearing feces on the wall" fashion, but in a "I'm trapped in my location, not doing anything productive, and there's nothing on the horizon". Trust me, actual insanity might have been a better choice, as there was little that realistically could have been done. Except plan for the future, you see. If dreaming about it helps, perhaps working for it might be even better. So since the Spring of '04, I've been in what you'd term in Baseball a "Rebuilding Year" (and then some) in regards to my gear for when we would finally leave Mount Sterling. Wherever we would land, which was very much unknown at that point, it would have to be better then were I was then (both due to local and well as mentally) and there would be music to be played. Over the course of 18 months and purchasing, paying down debt, rinsing and repeating, the following major purchases managed to make their way into my grubby hands:




Two Yamaha RBX 775 five-string basses: Flat Silver on the right, a custom fretless Flat Blue on the left.



Ibanez RKB 900 four-string bass: I didn't "need" this, but along with the Yamahas above it was also a discontinued model, and I had an itch for a four-string bass strapped low and played pickstyle and \m/etal if needed. All I can say is the 73% off list isn't too shabby.



SWR Mini Mo' Bass Preamp with Mo' Control 2 Master Foot Controller.



QSC PLX 1602 Stereo Power Amplifier



Avatar Speakers 2x10" and 2x12" Neodymium Speaker Cabinets.

Trust me, they may look heavy, but the above totaled is still lighter than my old-school Peavey combo I used to gig with. Why it took so long to develop a taste for decent tone, I have no idea...

Lacking the immediacy of digital cameras, I have no real photos as of yet, but can give you an idea of "The Rig o' Quasi Doom" with this flowchart:



I can sound any way my heart desires. I can stun cattle at 500 meters with 300 watts through each 8 ohm cabinet. I... can't gig now that my car has bit the big one.

Shit. On to "Phase 2"*...

*Cue evil laughter




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[info]onelonegirl
2005-09-21 08:17 pm UTC (link)
ewwwwwwwwwww ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh five-string basses

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Re: evil laughter
[info]scarred2112
2005-09-23 06:40 pm UTC (link)
I'll let you touch 'em if you'd like. Just step into the decontamination chamber right this way... ;-)

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[info]masikus
2005-09-21 09:01 pm UTC (link)
"How to pwn on the Bass"- By scarred2112 :)

It's good to see you FINALLY posting again. Jeez! I owe you and Steph both an email dude. I promise to get to that soon. Things have been insanely.....insane as of late. Family issues, band issues, dry scalp, explosive diarrhea...you know, the usual.

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[info]scarred2112
2005-09-23 06:47 pm UTC (link)
Unfortunately, that book was co-written by Entwistle, Sheehan, Myung, Malone, et al. -)

I know, I should have been on sooner but I think the time away was good time away. Unpacking, discovering this new weird place, and generally getting the bad Kentucky vibes out.

Things have been insanely.....insane as of late. Family issues, band issues, dry scalp, explosive diarrhea...you know, the usual.

Drop me an e-mail, or even your # is you'd like. Now that we have unlimited long-distance, I'm trying to switch a fair amount of my communication to the "real world", Queensryche tribal drum ending required. As for the issues, I should know.

...I'm got subscriptions. ;-)

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[info]akwardnormality
2005-09-21 11:37 pm UTC (link)
went crazy the past year. Not in a "smearing feces on the wall" fashion, but in a "I'm trapped in my location, not doing anything productive, and there's nothing on the horizon"
I have felt like that since I turned oooh .... 4 but mommy doesn't let ME move to Ohio and buy pretty guitars.
They are pretty by the way. Yay for lack of less insantity and more posting.

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[info]scarred2112
2005-09-23 06:52 pm UTC (link)
...but mommy doesn't let ME move to Ohio and buy pretty guitars.

Mommmy, has no say in my purchased... [info]troisbalances does. Which very well might be worse, as she knows when I "need" something and when I'm BSing and just "want" it. ;-)

Yay for lack of less insantity and more posting.

+2 on that one. With any luck things will stay as such. :D

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[info]akwardnormality
2005-09-24 01:36 am UTC (link)
Mommmy, has no say in my purchased... troisbalances does. Which very well might be worse, as she knows when I "need" something and when I'm BSing and just "want" it. ;-)

How many people do you know who "NEED" guitars? People need food , water , shelter , money.... birth control every now again.... not musical instruments , you just want those really badly. :-P

Sorry I'm annoying..... I'm still trapped , what's your excuse :-)

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[info]scarred2112
2005-10-10 09:36 am UTC (link)
How many people do you know who "NEED" guitars? People need food , water , shelter , money.... birth control every now again.... not musical instruments , you just want those really badly. :-P

Ask me if I "need" water more than I "need" to release my musical side.

...c'mon, ask me. ;-)

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[info]paulv
2005-09-22 12:44 am UTC (link)
this is good stuff.

Whyfor is the right channel effected and the left channel clean? Why aren't both effected? Why right effected left clean instead of vice versa?

What about the recording? Do you have any fancy pants recording stuffs? Could you add them to the flowchart, or perhaps have an additional (supplemental) flow chart for the recording? Or is recording done in studios? Or what? How do you make note of things (riffs? grooves?) that you come up with? Do you write them down? Or just remember them?

hmmm...this is many questions.

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[info]scarred2112
2005-09-23 11:53 pm UTC (link)
Whyfor is the right channel effected and the left channel clean? Why aren't both effected? Why right effected left clean instead of vice versa?

The reason one is running effects and one isn't is something I have written hundreds of words on, but I'll try and keep it down for now. Basically, using effects on bass is hard from a sonic POV due to the large amount of power it takes to amplify verse guitar (the general rule is 4-5X how much your guitarist is running - if he's got 100 watts, you should have 500 just for headroom) and how they work on low frequencies. Time-based effects like chorus, reverb, and delay turn your low-end into "mush", as it takes their sound waves longer to reach point X then it does higher frequencies. Gain-based like distortion/overdrive do so by laying more "effect" on top of the note and making it harder to hear the base bass note.

So the easiest way to avoid this is to either run two "rigs", one effected to get that sound, and one not to maintain a "clean" bass tone - this has the obvious downside of having double amount (and therefore cost) of preamps, amplification, speaker cabinets and other gear. One of the functions that sold me on the Mini Mo' is called "Dual Mode", which when used routes a post-EQ/pre-effects to one out, and another post-EQ/post-effects to another, basically giving you the ability to run both a clean as well as an effected channel at separate volume levels with virtually no fuss and much less cost.

There's no reason one is "right" and the other "left" other then I have to tell them apart somehow. Physically it doesn't relate to real-world positioning as the 2x10 is on top of the 2x12, but as the "outs" from the power amp are labeled "right" and "left" (for usage in PA, it would relate)- I'm simply keeping continuity.

What about the recording? Do you have any fancy pants recording stuffs?

With this, not as of yet. You can hear few examples of solos using the effects and still hearing a clean bass note here (BassSynth, Subwave, and Distortion), here (Overdrive, Chorus, Mo'EQ) and Choosing To Drown in a more song-based arena. (BB uses the "Mo' Bass", the preamp plus poweramp predecessor of the "Mini Mo')

Could you add them to the flowchart, or perhaps have an additional (supplemental) flow chart for the recording?

I'll make a revised flowchart showing how I would send my signal to the mixing board in a live venue or recording board. Basically, SWR has made it as easy as with "Dual Mode" by having 11 methods of outing the signal. What I'll be doing to preserve my dual-channel routing is to use the "Mo' Out", which is a post-everything out as well as a standard XLR post-EQ out: hand the soundman two XLR cables, tell s/he to give me a 50/50 mix of the two, and that's "Dual Mode" to the PA.

I would pretty much to the same thing in a recording session, with the addition of taking a post-bass/pre-everything signal and running that through a high-quality direct box and straight into the board. Engineers like to have a safety like that in case they've not down with my personal settings, but in most cases I'd then have the ability to do a premix of the three channels (direct, pre-effects, post-effects) based on what the song calls for: A ballad? Chorus on the effected channel mixed with the other two. A rock song? A decent amount of overdrive boosted compared to the other two tracks. A full-out metal song? Large amounts of effects balanced with the two other channels to have to sound without loosing the primary "bass" sound.

It's fairly complicated, but that's the basic idea. ;-)

How do you make note of things (riffs? grooves?) that you come up with? Do you write them down? Or just remember them?

Right now, I have my music binder out at all time and right down a chord progression or bassline "riff" on staff paper. Even if I'm out, I'll write down on a napkin or something. In the future... that could change. ;-)

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[info]paulv
2005-09-25 10:12 pm UTC (link)
Wow. This is neat stuff. That makes sense, but I've obviously never thought about it before. How many watts are standard for guitars?

One other thing

What I'll be doing to preserve my dual-channel routing is to use the "Mo' Out", which is a post-everything out as well as a standard XLR post-EQ out: hand the soundman two XLR cables, tell s/he to give me a 50/50 mix of the two, and that's "Dual Mode" to the PA.

How is it, exactly, that when you say that you sound "cool" and when I say

What we'll be doing is installing a bridging firewall -- a firewall which functions on the MAC layer thus enabling us to firewall in hardware services on otherwise pubically available machines without changing addresses. We can also use this to inject packets into the layer three filtering system and thus manipulate them with standard layer three tools.

I sound like a "big geek"? That's not fair. I'm just jealous that musicians get to rock, chicks, and drugs and geeks get pocket protectors and beat up in gym class.

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[info]scarred2112
2005-10-10 09:49 am UTC (link)
How many watts are standard for guitars?

Typical-yet-truthful joke: too many. A fair amount depends on if they're using a tube amp (which you must crank to overdrive the current into the tube and create natural distortion) or a solid state amp (in which the distortion comes from a circuit, and doesn't concern volume) but in general all guitarists playing clubs are far too loud for their venue. That's what PA is for, and it only makes your band and your monitors inaudiable. You'll see them using 100-200 watt half-or-fullstacks (1 or 2 4x12" cabinets) which is very much overkill. The best thing they can do is have a nice 50 watt combo or head, which you can push into distorting without killing yourself volumewise.

Meanwhile, most bassists will use up to 5X their guitarist's wattage - not to play Volume Wars, but for headroom issues so that they have adequate power so when they slap they don't blow an amp or speaker (the initial waveform of a slapped note is extremely sharp, which is why you need the extra power to "absorb" it)

How is it, exactly, that when you say that you sound "cool" and when I say (stuff that passes right over my head) *I* sound like a "big geek"? That's not fair.

Perhaps, but you're in the area for "Cute Geek Girls", which isn't a bad one in the least. ;-) Plus, your jobs often come with medical/dental, 401Ks, and a lacking of bad backs from lifting heavy gear by all of 30. :D

Geeks are today's rock stars.

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[info]almsthvn
2005-09-22 01:12 am UTC (link)
that is so f'ing hot.

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[info]scarred2112
2005-09-23 11:57 pm UTC (link)
You're so right you have no idea. I touch myself to it daily.

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[info]aleja
2005-09-22 03:18 am UTC (link)
That's a purty chart.

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[info]scarred2112
2005-09-23 11:58 pm UTC (link)
It took multiple hours. Apparently I'm not only anal about my gear, but how my gear is represented online...

Help.

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[info]perplexio
2005-09-22 04:04 am UTC (link)
It is good to see both you and [info]troisbalances back. Your postings have been conspicuously absent.

Oh and I noticed someone started a Kevin Gilbert community! YAY, it's about time.

I almost started one myself but I don't consider myself a big enough fan of Gilbert's work to do that. I dig him, I think he was brilliant, but there are certain fans out there that have a devotion to his music that's almost akin to a religious fervor. I felt such a fan would be better suited to starting such a community. But once such a fan did just that, I was more than happy to join.

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[info]scarred2112
2005-09-24 12:04 am UTC (link)
I think he was brilliant, but there are certain fans out there that have a devotion to his music that's almost akin to a religious fervor.

I've noticed that, and frankly it's fairly off-putting to me as more than a casual fan but not a "religious"-esque one. Plus, the heavy-handed smackdown that his estate puts down on fans making fair comments on his fallacies (his choice of partners, his death, etc.) is very much a turn-off as well

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[info]fetching
2005-09-22 10:10 am UTC (link)
> I went crazy the past year. Not in a "smearing feces on the wall" fashion, but in a "I'm trapped in my location, not doing anything productive, and there's nothing on the horizon".

I'm feeling that way, too! Hehehehe!

Anyway, good to see something from you again, and sexy equipment ya got there. ;)

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[info]scarred2112
2005-09-24 12:01 am UTC (link)
I'm glad I have a partner in insanity, and there's so many innuendos I could make about "sexy gear" that I'm not even going to bother. ;-)

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